I really like those pants. Tried a lot of pants in the shop and there were the only one they had in 32 inseam. I still tried a lot of pairs in 34 lenght thinking i could get them modified but none were as nice to the touch as these. They are soft to the touch and a bit elastic. Also knee pads are at the right height on these where as most other brand the would be too low or the diameter of the pants would be too big at the knee and i felt the pad would move in the event of a crash. Rode them in hot weather and they let a bit of air through and did not fell warm at all. overall these fell like regular pants with knee pads.